Us women need to get better at talking to each other and disagreeing with each other. We direct so much contempt and shame towards women we may disagree with but never give the same smoke to men who are doing us harm. So disappointing. I’m sorry you were on the target of this anti woman behaviour from a fellow woman and feminist. Makes me sad.
Any so-called feminist who includes transqueers and spouts the usual mantra of 'TWAW' I cannot take seriously. I'll still read her posts (not her essays, though) because they're interesting, but with the lingering knowledge that she's a sex traitor.
Thank you for calling this post out: I subscribed (and immediately cancelled paid subscription) to Jo that week - appreciated her voice and witness-bearing, but hadn't realised that she was a TWAWite. The "anti trans" canard is definitely a misnomer in your case, and the great majority of feminists on this platform.
"Gender-critical perspectives actually span a real spectrum of voices and opinions. The fact that you don’t agree with everything every one of them says is exactly the point—it shows that sex realism isn’t an ideology, but a movement made up of people from all walks of life who see the harm in policies that deny biological reality, and the rights and needs attached to it."
This was very interesting to read. Substack’s algorithm pushed Jo’s publication to me when I joined over a year ago. There were some nuggets of knowledge in her work, but once I realized she didn’t believe in the material reality of sex I accepted that we diverged too much on root-cause analysis. I added her to my list of thinkers who are outside of my analytical framework. I listen to opposing thinkers in doses, because that’s how I get stronger in my critical thinking and critiques. But there are some fundamental differences that make me decide to avoid work by a fellow woman, even if there might be nuggets of wisdom…pretty much anyone at extreme ends of thinking I pass on, and any woman not admitting gender is a tool of oppression is extreme to me. I practice gender abolitionism so there’s actually a lot of self-professed gender critical/TERF women I mute if they have too many blindspots about their own belief in sex-based stereotypes. I actually mute lots of authors including all men to weed out the clutter. One of my favorite Substack features.
On another note, I disagree with framing her race as a privilege, I get the specific angle in which you were implying it, but still don’t think the concept of privilege fits right. I do agree that no one gets to say their personal experience is representative of everyone, that’s illogical. And it’s becoming an increasing problem in media/debate. BTW she’s Indian not Black.
Love this, love you, and love Mad Fem, y'all are some of my favourite feminists and writers on this app. I’m with you completely. I used to follow Jo (until she blocked me today) because I genuinely enjoyed some of her work. Like you, I found useful little nuggets in there, and her work and writing on rape were often compelling. I didn’t always agree with her, especially on gender, sex, and race, but I still read and engaged in good faith with things I didn’t fully align with.
But after everything Mad Fem pointed out, honestly, I’m glad I’m blocked. And if she hadn’t blocked me, I would’ve eventually unsubscribed anyway. Learning that she has almost 8k subscribers, many of them paying, and that she insists people pay while not paying for anyone else’s Substack herself? Then having the nerve to shame Mad Fem for unsubscribing? That pushed me over the edge. Good riddance!
And on the race note: yeah, Jo isn’t Black; she’s Indian, so I can’t speak to her experience. But I do think Mad Fem is right in pointing out that Jo often uses her racial identity as a kind of carte blanche, maybe not a privilege, but definitely in ways that feel like bad-faith shielding rather than genuine analysis.
Thank you for your support and right back at you sis:) I really love the topics you discuss! It's a shame that she jumped to blocking instead of pushing through her discomfort but she didn't seem ready to face her blindspots:(
Thanks for sharing on the race angle. I think I was stuck on the word "privilege" but absolutely do understand what you're both saying on someone exploiting their demographics to avoid honest discussions. We do need a good word for that if there isn't one already. Your word shielding is good...it's the whole "As a XYZ" thing some like to do these days. I remember a time I was caught up in that bullshit myself naming my demographics. They have their place but not as a manipulation.
Quite right! Because of this I am attempting to subscribe to your Substack for a year but keep getting this message:
This Connect account cannot currently make live charges. The `requirements.disabled_reason` property on the account will provide information about why this account is currently disabled. If you are a customer trying to make a purchase, please contact the owner of this site. Your transaction has not been processed.
Let me know how to proceed. Thanks for all you do!!!
Geez, what a lunatic. No one is obligated to pay their hard earned money. To anything or anyone. Also, anyone who sits here and defend this new age progressive violent misogyny called the trans movement. You can’t be taken seriously.
All respect to you for reading someone you don't agree with in search of knowledge and understanding. 'The ick' - what is she, 12? 🙄
Us women need to get better at talking to each other and disagreeing with each other. We direct so much contempt and shame towards women we may disagree with but never give the same smoke to men who are doing us harm. So disappointing. I’m sorry you were on the target of this anti woman behaviour from a fellow woman and feminist. Makes me sad.
Yeah, Mad Fem, and our actual sex is in every somatic cell of our bodies.
So, it isn't just "in our genitals", as she seems to be proudly misinformed of.
Any so-called feminist who includes transqueers and spouts the usual mantra of 'TWAW' I cannot take seriously. I'll still read her posts (not her essays, though) because they're interesting, but with the lingering knowledge that she's a sex traitor.
I stopped following her when she included a book written by a man in her ‘’feminist introductory reading list’’ lol
Of course she did. 😆
Thank you for calling this post out: I subscribed (and immediately cancelled paid subscription) to Jo that week - appreciated her voice and witness-bearing, but hadn't realised that she was a TWAWite. The "anti trans" canard is definitely a misnomer in your case, and the great majority of feminists on this platform.
"Gender-critical perspectives actually span a real spectrum of voices and opinions. The fact that you don’t agree with everything every one of them says is exactly the point—it shows that sex realism isn’t an ideology, but a movement made up of people from all walks of life who see the harm in policies that deny biological reality, and the rights and needs attached to it."
https://substack.com/@sexrealitybites/note/c-181099197?r=32ibef&utm_source=notes-share-action&utm_medium=web
I called her out on the post (about the reason for unsubscribing) and she blocked me. 😂
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok Just had to get that out first. Another real comment coming LOL.
This was very interesting to read. Substack’s algorithm pushed Jo’s publication to me when I joined over a year ago. There were some nuggets of knowledge in her work, but once I realized she didn’t believe in the material reality of sex I accepted that we diverged too much on root-cause analysis. I added her to my list of thinkers who are outside of my analytical framework. I listen to opposing thinkers in doses, because that’s how I get stronger in my critical thinking and critiques. But there are some fundamental differences that make me decide to avoid work by a fellow woman, even if there might be nuggets of wisdom…pretty much anyone at extreme ends of thinking I pass on, and any woman not admitting gender is a tool of oppression is extreme to me. I practice gender abolitionism so there’s actually a lot of self-professed gender critical/TERF women I mute if they have too many blindspots about their own belief in sex-based stereotypes. I actually mute lots of authors including all men to weed out the clutter. One of my favorite Substack features.
On another note, I disagree with framing her race as a privilege, I get the specific angle in which you were implying it, but still don’t think the concept of privilege fits right. I do agree that no one gets to say their personal experience is representative of everyone, that’s illogical. And it’s becoming an increasing problem in media/debate. BTW she’s Indian not Black.
Love this, love you, and love Mad Fem, y'all are some of my favourite feminists and writers on this app. I’m with you completely. I used to follow Jo (until she blocked me today) because I genuinely enjoyed some of her work. Like you, I found useful little nuggets in there, and her work and writing on rape were often compelling. I didn’t always agree with her, especially on gender, sex, and race, but I still read and engaged in good faith with things I didn’t fully align with.
But after everything Mad Fem pointed out, honestly, I’m glad I’m blocked. And if she hadn’t blocked me, I would’ve eventually unsubscribed anyway. Learning that she has almost 8k subscribers, many of them paying, and that she insists people pay while not paying for anyone else’s Substack herself? Then having the nerve to shame Mad Fem for unsubscribing? That pushed me over the edge. Good riddance!
And on the race note: yeah, Jo isn’t Black; she’s Indian, so I can’t speak to her experience. But I do think Mad Fem is right in pointing out that Jo often uses her racial identity as a kind of carte blanche, maybe not a privilege, but definitely in ways that feel like bad-faith shielding rather than genuine analysis.
Anyway, agreed on all counts, and love you both!
Thank you for your support and right back at you sis:) I really love the topics you discuss! It's a shame that she jumped to blocking instead of pushing through her discomfort but she didn't seem ready to face her blindspots:(
Thanks for sharing on the race angle. I think I was stuck on the word "privilege" but absolutely do understand what you're both saying on someone exploiting their demographics to avoid honest discussions. We do need a good word for that if there isn't one already. Your word shielding is good...it's the whole "As a XYZ" thing some like to do these days. I remember a time I was caught up in that bullshit myself naming my demographics. They have their place but not as a manipulation.
Quite right! Because of this I am attempting to subscribe to your Substack for a year but keep getting this message:
This Connect account cannot currently make live charges. The `requirements.disabled_reason` property on the account will provide information about why this account is currently disabled. If you are a customer trying to make a purchase, please contact the owner of this site. Your transaction has not been processed.
Let me know how to proceed. Thanks for all you do!!!
Me too. Not sure why I haven’t been able to take out paid subscriptions of late.
Weird!
I’m 100% with you.
Geez, what a lunatic. No one is obligated to pay their hard earned money. To anything or anyone. Also, anyone who sits here and defend this new age progressive violent misogyny called the trans movement. You can’t be taken seriously.